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20MPH Signs Concealed By Pre-existing Foliage

Reported via desktop in the Road traffic signs category anonymously at 15:49, Sun 15 June 2025

Sent to Torbay Borough Council less than a minute later. FixMyStreet ref: 7712469.

New 20mph entry signs signs (installed within last 6-8 weeks) are completely concealed by foliage on both sides of road, and they've been like this since the moment they were installed 6-8 weeks ago. In fact the signs were installed DESPITE the existing foliage, making it almost impossible for motorists to see them when coming up Penny's Hill.

Since this is a new limit, and the signs are concealed, many drivers are still under the impression that it's still a 30MPH road and fail to reduce speed as they would do if they were visible.

If the purpose is to slow vehicles, the signs will remain useless for this until the foliage is cleared (should have been done at installation). So it's tempting to conclude the signs have been intentionally sited in the foliage in order to catch out unwary drivers if enforcement takes place in the near future.

Updates

  • Several emails later, and the situation has barely changed. Most of the emails I received were either incredibly disingenuous, or else written by a complete imbecile. I'm inclined to believe the former, since nobody is THAT incompetent!

    Over a month later, very little has changed - particularly one sign that is completely concealed within the foliage of mature trees sited on council-owned land.

    Not sure if/when they will start to enforce this 20 limit. But if they do, I'd say the concealed terminal signs might be good grounds to contest.

    Posted anonymously at 15:42, Fri 18 July 2025
    Still open, via questionnaire

  • Another month and I've walked the road almost daily since the signs were installed. Nothing has been done.

    Let's see how it looks on next month's episode of "Incompetence or Malice, You Decide"

    Posted anonymously at 23:38, Thu 28 August 2025
    Still open, via questionnaire

  • Nope! No change. They aren't interested.

    Posted anonymously at 08:18, Fri 26 September 2025
    Still open, via questionnaire

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