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Road markings on cycle way

Reported in the Roads/highways category by Graeme Hilton at 09:18, Tue 21 August 2012

Sent to Hampshire County Council 2 minutes later

Give way markings have appeared on the Rownhams Lane cycle-path as it passes the access road for the eastbound M271 motorway services.

Why must cyclists give way to an access road that should only see one or two vehicle movements an hour? If the markings are legitimate, why have they not also been applied to the Westbound services access road?

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  • Posted by Cyclestrian at 12:48, Tue 4 September 2012

  • Now I understand. These road markings were painted in error. HCC must have misunderstood this issue:

    Http://www.fixmystreet.com/report/241606

    "warning signs and give way lines should be provided so the traffic is aware of the cycle lane"

    Well, HCC, that reporter was suggesting extra give way markings ON THE ROAD, not on the cycle path. Arghhh!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Cyclestrian at 12:08, Thu 6 September 2012

  • Someone needs to burn those markings off and read the original request properly. Also take a look at http://m27junction3a.blogspot.co.uk/ 2012/ 09/ seriously.html

    Posted by Cyclestrian at 23:08, Fri 7 September 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:35, Tue 18 September 2012

  • No communication from either Test Valley Borough Council or Hampshire County Council.
    Some communication from Southampton Cycling Campaign, but it's not their area (outside the city).

    Posted by Graeme Hilton at 10:35, Tue 18 September 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 16:59, Tue 16 October 2012

  • I will try and get a response from either the borough or county council. I don't hold out much hope.

    Posted by Graeme Hilton at 16:59, Tue 16 October 2012

  • Still no response.

    Posted by Graeme Hilton at 12:34, Thu 17 January 2013

  • I wrote to both HCC and TVBC again and had a "I've forwarded your concerns" response from TVBC, but nothing else (that's been two weeks waiting).

    Posted by Graeme Hilton at 08:21, Sun 28 April 2013

  • Finally a human has responded!

    I appreciate your view regarding access to M27 eastbound carriageway but there is nothing that TVBC can do about it. Access to the motorway network is a matter for the Highways Agency. I am however copying this email to them so that they can reply to you direct. The use of the Service Area is a matter for the operator and once again not an issue for TVBC unless planning permission is required. I am trying to discover who ordered the give way markings on the cycleway at its junction with the access to the motorway service area and will let you know the answer when it is known to me.

    Posted by Graeme Hilton at 21:03, Thu 8 August 2013

  • The council have agreed to remove the give way markings on the cycle path. They have further offered "if it is possible" to add Stop lines for vehicles leaving the service area to prevent them encroaching on the cycle lane without first stopping. Similar to the markings at the Kingfisher Business Park about 0.5 miles north of this location.

    Posted by Graeme Hilton at 16:23, Wed 15 January 2014

  • This was fixed. But now they've added give way markings to the other access road (for the westbound services).

    State changed to: Fixed

    Posted by Graeme Hilton at 22:15, Thu 16 October 2014

  • Enquiry ref: 21102016 Dear Mr Hilton, I refer to your recent enquiry regarding the give way markings on the shared use footway/cycleway facility on Rownhams Lane. Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding. Give Way markings have been placed as a casualty reduction measure as injury accidents involving cyclists have occurred. It is the safety audit view that the give way markings are required and that cyclists should give way as the junction layout is a priority side road junction with a kerbed radius. Furthermore the vegetation surrounding the service area limits the intervisibility between cyclists approaching the side road crossing and vehicles approaching the junction with Rownhams Lane from the service area. The Highway vegetation on this route has also been cut back to aid visibility of and for cyclists. In accordance with this advice the give way markings will be applied to both MSA entrances from Rownhams Lane. I hope this is helpful in clarifying the reason for the markings being applied. Kind Regards,

    Posted by Graeme Hilton at 17:12, Thu 4 December 2014

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