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Extra pedestrian controls needed

Reported in the Traffic lights category anonymously at 10:15, Thu 20 January 2011

Sent to Cardiff Council 1 minute later. FixMyStreet ref: 157038.

Crossing at this junction needs improvement for pedestrians. There are controls but only on certain conrners of the crossing. If you happen to be stood at the wrong corner there is no way to press a button to initiate the pedestrian controls. Therefore making crossing this road very difficult and unsafe.

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  • Had an email from the Traffic Management team at the Council stating that this issue will be investigated by carrying out traffic flow and speed surveys, and examining the accident record at this location. This will enable the possibility of introducing improved pedestrian facilities to be assessed. If a scheme is considered feasible and justifiable the proposals will be presented to the relevant Ward Councillors for consideration and, if appropriate, added to the Traffic Management Scheme waiting list.

    Posted anonymously at 12:21, Thu 17 February 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:21, Thu 17 February 2011

  • Council said they will investigate

    Posted anonymously at 12:49, Thu 17 March 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:49, Thu 17 March 2011

  • Still no change, still playing chicken with the traffic at the lights

    Posted anonymously at 13:11, Thu 14 April 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 13:11, Thu 14 April 2011

  • Still no news or development on this - althought the council have fitted some drop kerbs! If only we could cross the road to use them.

    Posted anonymously at 13:38, Thu 12 May 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 13:38, Thu 12 May 2011

  • Still awaiting response from the council re. their appraisal of the site.

    Posted anonymously at 14:09, Thu 9 June 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:09, Thu 9 June 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 16:08, Thu 7 July 2011

  • Waiting for Council to decide if controls are needed.

    Posted anonymously at 16:08, Thu 7 July 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:44, Mon 15 August 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:09, Tue 13 September 2011

  • Extra controls still nowhere to be seen - still run the gauntlet everytime me and the kids wish to cross the road

    Posted anonymously at 14:09, Tue 13 September 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 15:26, Tue 11 October 2011

  • Controls are still needed - still no reply from the council

    Posted anonymously at 15:26, Tue 11 October 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:47, Wed 9 November 2011

  • No update from the council

    Posted anonymously at 10:47, Wed 9 November 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:05, Wed 7 December 2011

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 16:32, Wed 4 January 2012

  • Enquiry sent to council re. status of the request - no reply received

    Posted anonymously at 16:32, Wed 4 January 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:30, Thu 2 February 2012

  • Can't believe this has been a year! Fromt he Council:

    "I would advise you that the matter has been investigated and the results concluded that the provision of further pedestrian facilities is feasible by the introduction of an all red stage whereby all vehicular traffic is stopped.

    The results of the investigation will be included in the Council's area study along with existing issues and established areas of concern. This issue will therefore be included in our comprehensive investigation of all road safety and accessibility issues in this part of the City. This will take into account the police injury related incident record, traffic surveys, planned developments and other relevant data to ensure that the resulting report is as comprehensive as possible. From this report, the order of the schemes for the future programme will be established.

    The report will be available on-line later this financial year (at www.cardiff.gov.uk under Transport Projects) where you will be able to see the outcome of the investigations and any planned action."

    Posted anonymously at 09:30, Thu 2 February 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:01, Thu 1 March 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:16, Thu 29 March 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:55, Thu 26 April 2012

  • Still ongoing

    Posted anonymously at 11:55, Thu 26 April 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:07, Thu 24 May 2012

  • Report still says "Ongoing investigation" http://cardiff.gov.uk/ objview.asp?object_id=21610

    Posted anonymously at 12:07, Thu 24 May 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 15:53, Thu 21 June 2012

  • No update

    Posted anonymously at 15:53, Thu 21 June 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:06, Mon 23 July 2012

  • Problem not fixed and no update to report.

    Posted anonymously at 11:06, Mon 23 July 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:37, Mon 20 August 2012

  • Nothing to report - no progress

    Posted anonymously at 11:37, Mon 20 August 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:01, Mon 17 September 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:00, Mon 15 October 2012

  • Contactde the Council to obtain an update - had a reply on 26/9/12:
    "I would advise you that the results of the assessment will be included as part of our current area studies. It is anticipated that the final document be published by the end of the current calendar year. "

    Posted anonymously at 14:00, Mon 15 October 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:33, Mon 12 November 2012

  • No closer to seeing the situation improve for pedestrians

    Posted anonymously at 14:33, Mon 12 November 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 15:30, Mon 10 December 2012

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 16:04, Mon 7 January 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:22, Tue 5 February 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:39, Tue 5 March 2013

  • Council have finally agreed that the additional controls are warranted. However, all funds are allocated for this year and the scheme will be assessed against other schemes next year (and into the future). So basically it won't happen any time soon.
    Contacte local Councillor (Cllr Robson) who agrees the scheme is needed and will help to pressure the Highways team into action but explained it may take years!

    Posted anonymously at 10:39, Tue 5 March 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:47, Wed 3 April 2013

  • no new updates on this

    Posted anonymously at 11:47, Wed 3 April 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:05, Wed 1 May 2013

  • Live in hope this might be fixed one day!

    Posted anonymously at 12:05, Wed 1 May 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:56, Wed 29 May 2013

  • No change, still waiting.

    Posted anonymously at 12:56, Wed 29 May 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 13:02, Wed 26 June 2013

  • No update, nothing changed

    Posted anonymously at 13:02, Wed 26 June 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 13:47, Wed 24 July 2013

  • No update to report

    Posted anonymously at 13:47, Wed 24 July 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:57, Tue 27 August 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:10, Tue 24 September 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:35, Tue 22 October 2013

  • Still running the gauntlet

    Posted anonymously at 11:35, Tue 22 October 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:10, Tue 19 November 2013

  • Still no fix

    Posted anonymously at 14:10, Tue 19 November 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 15:50, Tue 17 December 2013

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 16:55, Tue 14 January 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:16, Thu 13 February 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:55, Thu 13 March 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:28, Thu 10 April 2014

  • Needed more than ever as the traffic coming south from Rhiwbina now likes to form two lanes, with cars wishing to turn right into Tyn-y-Parc Road speeding down the outside of the traffic queueing to go straight ahead. The road is not wide enough for two lanes of traffic but vehicles insist on driving half in the opposing lane to get to the lights.

    Posted anonymously at 10:28, Thu 10 April 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:54, Thu 8 May 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:10, Mon 9 June 2014

  • The junction is getting worse - more and more cars driving south along Pantbach Rd from Rhiwbina village are creating two lanes of traffic at the traffic lights. The compounds the problem for pedestrians and cyclists but also forces cars driving in the opposite direction to the left side of the road off their normal driving line.

    Posted anonymously at 11:10, Mon 9 June 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:41, Tue 8 July 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 15:53, Fri 8 August 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:19, Mon 8 September 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:36, Mon 6 October 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:02, Mon 3 November 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:46, Mon 1 December 2014

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 08:39, Fri 2 January 2015

  • still no action.

    Posted anonymously at 08:39, Fri 2 January 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:35, Fri 30 January 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:09, Mon 2 March 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:46, Thu 2 April 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 08:19, Fri 1 May 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 15:04, Tue 2 June 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:50, Mon 6 July 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 13:33, Mon 3 August 2015

  • Nothing - still no action or feedback

    Posted anonymously at 13:33, Mon 3 August 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:23, Wed 2 September 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:00, Wed 30 September 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 08:00, Wed 4 November 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:56, Wed 2 December 2015

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:54, Mon 4 January 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 15:53, Mon 1 February 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:25, Tue 1 March 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:53, Tue 5 April 2016

  • Latest info from the Council:

    "I can confirm that a scheme to provide controlled pedestrian crossing facilities at the Pantbach/Ty Wern/Ty’n y Parc Road junction is currently in the Council’s approved Local Transport Plan and will be implemented when funding is available.

    The schemes included in the Local Transport Plan have been prioritised using an objective method of assessment and funding will be allocated to schemes on this priority basis. The objective method of assessment takes into account traffic and pedestrian flows, injury collision incidents over a five year period, traffic speed, site layout and delay in implementation.

    In view of this, it is not possible to predict exactly when a scheme will be implemented due to many factors, such as the available budget; varying site conditions such as road casualty figures, and whether any new projects have been added to the Future Programme.

    An assessment of the police injury collision record shows that there have been no recorded collisions at this location over a five year period.

    This project is currently ranked as number 64 on the Future Programme, and is therefore unlikely to be implemented in the near future using funds from the Council’s capital budget. However, should other funding sources become available, such as from planning conditions, we shall endeavour to deliver this road safety project sooner."

    Posted anonymously at 10:53, Tue 5 April 2016

  • This is an extremely dangerous junction if you use a mobility scooter because if you cross Ty-Wern Road at the lights and want to go up Pantbach Road to Rhiwbina you can't get past the traffic light post and anyway they are no dropped kerbs on either side of the road.

    Posted anonymously at 19:23, Tue 5 April 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 16:33, Wed 4 May 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:10, Thu 2 June 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:09, Fri 1 July 2016

  • Observation - traffic is becoming worse at this junction. It seems that drivers on Pantbach Road believe this is a two lane carriageway in both directions. I have seen cars mount kerbs, form two lanes on both sides of the junction and overtaking queing traffic just to get to a red light. Action needs to be taken.

    Posted anonymously at 09:09, Fri 1 July 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 13:15, Wed 10 August 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:24, Wed 7 September 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:27, Thu 6 October 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:46, Thu 3 November 2016

  • Not fixed but have noticed new white lines to encourage drivers to drive in lanes - that'll sort it I'm sure.

    Posted anonymously at 11:46, Thu 3 November 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 16:19, Thu 1 December 2016

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:25, Wed 4 January 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:31, Wed 1 February 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:03, Wed 1 March 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 10:48, Thu 30 March 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:18, Thu 27 April 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:32, Thu 25 May 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 15:37, Thu 22 June 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 11:20, Fri 21 July 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 09:39, Mon 21 August 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 08:57, Tue 19 September 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 12:37, Tue 17 October 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 14:46, Tue 14 November 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 15:37, Mon 18 December 2017

  • Still open, via questionnaire, 15:35, Tue 16 January 2018

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  • Still open, via questionnaire, 08:43, Mon 16 April 2018

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  • Still open, via questionnaire, 18:42, Tue 12 June 2018

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