Church bells ringing loudly and continuously 9:00-9:30 every Sunday morning

Reported by Chris Beach at 14:10, Fri 6 March 2009
Sent to Southwark Borough Council 4 minutes later

Every Sunday, the church bells at St Mary's ring loudly and continuously for half an hour. This is a nuisance to local residents - particularly those who are ill, working night shifts etc.

The church has been around since 1879, and the bells are traditional. However, what was appropriate in the 19th Century is not necessarily appropriate in the 21st century.

Local residents have a right to live in a peaceful environment. This should be considered against the desire of the handful of church-goers to loudly advertise their Sunday service

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Posted by Chris Beach at 14:47, Fri 3 April 2009

The council said the noise was not a "statutory nuisance" bearing in mind the age of the church, time of day and "acceptance in the local community"

I would challenge all three of these answers but have no means to appeal. It would be good to see comments from other local residents on this issue.

Posted anonymously at 11:59, Sun 28 June 2009

Is this a serious comment, or is it a satire on city-dwellers who move to the countryside & complain about the cocks crowing?

Posted by Chris Beach at 14:17, Sun 28 June 2009

It's not satire. I'm renting here and despite knowing of the church, I had no way of anticipating there'd be half an hour of (very poorly rung) bells waking me up every Sunday morning.

Posted anonymously at 19:25, Sun 5 July 2009

Join the team and maybe you'll raise the standard.

Posted by Steve at 19:46, Sun 5 July 2009, marked as fixed

I find it hard to believe that anyone could be so stupid as to think this is a problem which needs to be fixed.

Posted by Andrew Taylor at 23:13, Sun 5 July 2009

I live opposite a church, and out of all my neighbours God is by far the noisiest. But I don't mind because it's a nicer view than most of Manchester. It's swings and roundabouts. Seems churlish to complain about it. But if it was at nuisance levels I absolutely would, religion and history be damned - I need my sleep!

Posted by Matthew, FixMyStreet at 23:21, Sun 5 July 2009, reopened

Please do not mark things as fixed unless they actually have been, regardless of what you may think of the report; thanks.

Posted by Hamish at 09:05, Mon 6 July 2009

"...despite knowing of the church, I had no way of anticipating there'd be half an hour of (very poorly rung) bells waking me up every Sunday morning"

Those bells have been rung every Sunday morning for one hundred and thirty years. If you had no way of anticipating that, then clearly you have no brain.

If we're not to mark this as "fixed", there needs to be another option, "stupid".

Posted by Chris Beach at 10:24, Mon 6 July 2009

Hamish - Not all churches ring bells for half an hour on a Sunday morning. And when viewing places to rent you don't get the opportunity to test this out. If you don't care about the issue then don't get involved. What's worse than complaining about a non-issue is complaining about someone who's complaining about a non-issue. You just look like a dick, sorry!

Posted by Julie at 10:27, Mon 6 July 2009

Will it be the Imam at the local mosque with a loud hailer next ??!! Or the Jehovah's witnesses at the door interrupting ones peaceful contemplation.....

Posted by Hamish at 11:12, Mon 6 July 2009

"Not all churches ring bells for half an hour on a Sunday morning."

No, but this one does, and has done for more than a hundred years.

"And when viewing places to rent you don't get the opportunity to test this out."

Yes, you do.

"If you don't care about the issue then don't get involved."

Oh, but I do care about the issue. I care very much about people like you, who move into an area and then demand that things be changed because you didn't find out about them before you arrived.

"What's worse than complaining about a non-issue is complaining about someone who's complaining about a non-issue."

Wrong again.

"You just look like a dick, sorry!"

Coming from you, I consider this a compliment :)

Posted by Chris Beach at 11:14, Mon 6 July 2009

Julie - you raise a good question. Why should anyone be exempt from the basic rule that you don't disturb the peace of others without good reason? Why do we allow others to use religion to justify antisocial behaviour?

Posted by Matthew, FixMyStreet at 11:31, Mon 6 July 2009

Please could I ask that updates on this report be kept to discussing the report itself, and there's certainly no need for name calling by anyone. The report has been made, and perhaps Chris could see if he could gather support via a local petition; if the updates continue in a downwards spiral, I'm afraid I'll have to close updates or even remove the report from the site, which I don't want to do.

Posted by Hamish at 11:32, Mon 6 July 2009

"Will it be the Imam at the local mosque with a loud hailer next ??!!"

But "next" is a difference kettle of fish, isn't it? The point is that the church bells are "previous".

Posted by Hamish at 11:43, Mon 6 July 2009

I'm sorry, Chris, for calling you stupid. As a fellow atheist, I sympathise with your annoyance at religion getting "special treatment". I just don't see this case that way.

Posted by Chris Beach at 12:09, Mon 6 July 2009

Hamish - When looking at ~50 potential rental houses whilst in full employment I did not have time to camp out all Sunday morning to find out if church bells were disturbing the peace. Maybe someone with more time on their hands would be able to do so, but not me. Anyway, I don't have to justify this report to you.

FixMyStreet - feel free to delete the conversation chains on here including my own replies.

Let's keep the discussion relevant. If you're not involved in the area/issue in question then there's no need to post messages here.

Posted by Julie at 13:22, Mon 6 July 2009

The next is a consequence . Why cut off because the opinion is different . I thought these sites were democratic have they been infiltrated? Eh a little bit of humour doesn't go amiss the crusty old fuddyduddy who thinks can barr. I suppose he thinks his brain is better than everyone elses and you can impose what you want on every one else like certain other groups . Are you going to contact all cartoonists & tell them to stop cartooning because you don't like what they imply ??!!

Posted by Julie at 13:27, Mon 6 July 2009

NB This incident was linked to in the Newsletter. Are we not supposed to read it?

Posted anonymously at 19:43, Tue 7 July 2009

A small factual correction: The current church was completed in 1716 (not 1879 as you mysteriously assert -- have you looked at the building properly?). I should admit straight away that I''m shamefully ignorant about bell-ringing, but this does makes me wonder whether your criticism of the standard of bell-ringing at St Mary's has any foundation in fact.

Posted by Tina at 10:19, Mon 30 August 2010

I live right next to st marys church, it don't half do my head in! It's been ringing now for the past 20 mins and still going! Fair enough it's a beautiful church but there is no reason for it to make this horrendous noise for this long! Its just seeking attention going on this long! I could put up with a few minutes!

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